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Old 16th June 2008, 09:06 AM
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Default History/origins of eclipsis

I found the following statement and examples (from this site) quite enlightening:

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Eclipsis:
Impossible looking combinations of consonants at the beginning of Irish Gaelic words (mb, gc, nd, bhf, ng, bp, dt) strike terror in Scottish Gaelic speakers, but they are really very simple. They just mean that the preceding word historically used to end in an n or m, which often survives in the Scottish Gaelic spelling, but in Irish Gaelic only only survives as a modified pronounciation of the first letter of the following word. To get at the basic dictionary headword, just strip off the initial consonant. e.g.:

Latha nam pàistean Lá na bpáistí (look up "páiste")
Tha fhios agam gum bi e ann. Tá fhios agam gu mbeidh sé ann.
Pàirc nan caoraich Páirc na gcaorach (look up "caorach")
nam biodh airgead agam dá mbeadh airgead agam
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Old 10th March 2010, 12:44 PM
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I m'thuairim, sé an sampla maithe den Eclipsis ná an amhrán seo, Fionnaghuala.

Is bréa liom an leagan seo ó 'The Bothy Band'. Féach ar na liricí agus déan comparáid idir é sin agus as Gaeilge! Mar shampla, ceapaim go bhfuil 'thuirt' = 'duirt' sa céad líne.

The Bothy Band: Fionnaghuala
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbMXfvKNnuA
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Old 11th March 2010, 04:58 PM
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An bhfuil tú ag labhairt faoi:

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'Si eilean nam bothan nam bothan
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Tá an amhrán sin ro-sciobtha!
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